TLDR: this was a precision strike targeted specifically at the mother and children, because she was a doctor that had publicly posted about the number of Palestinian children that she has seen shot in the head by Israeli snipers.

Yeah, getting Trump reelected will sure show them, and it'll save 00 Palestinian lives. Way to go performative schmucks.

https://twitter.com/ShaykhSulaiman/status/1824939356445929494

"sorry you got deported guys but i really wanted to dunk on some libs"

That speech with the Israeli flags behind him is when I knew Trump would probably lose, because he's just letting normal dumbass Republicans run everything and isn't able to do his own thing. He lost his magic.

Who the fuck are you preaching to, lie nozzle? Go away.

JVR: Here is a charitable reconstruction of your position:
1. There are only two possible outcomes of the US presidential election: Harris or Trump.
2. A Trump win would have worse outcomes for Palestinians than a Harris win.
3. The morality of actions should be gauged by their outcomes.
4. Your support of a candidate affects the outcome of the election.
5. Therefore, not supporting Harris is anti-Palestinian.

I would object to 2, 3, and 4.
2. I think the only difference between Harris and Trump on Palestine is rhetorical tone. As is evident by current events.
3. Some things are so abhorrent that they should never be endorsed, no matter their outcomes--"red lines." Genocide, and the assassination of children are among those things for me. Apparently not for a lot of people.
4. Individual votes and actions do not affect the outcomes of elections. Therefore, appeals to morality based on outcomes in this area are moot. Candidates, however, can affect outcomes, and a majority of Americans support a permanent ceasefire and think a narrow plurality think Israel is committing genocide. Moderating her position would improve her election chances with voters.

There is a genocide enabled by our government and you're more mad at people protesting it than the people committing it.

"bOtH siDeZ R dA saMe!!!"

"Trump will give Netanyahu the green light to kill them all"
this will differ from the present situation in what ways

@Cena_mark

A thing I've noticed in social media interactions is that whenever I say anything in support of Harris, I get immediately pounced on by multiple people saying they won't vote for her because, "She's supports/enables/ carries out genocide."

When I bring up the fact Harris is only the Vice President, not the President, they say it doesn't matter because she should at least defy President Biden and speak out against his policies with regards to Israel.

And then I point out Trump was the actual President for the same amount of time as Biden has been president and during that time, he kept sending Bombs to Israel and providing other material support to their military. He never once criticized Israel for its treatment of Palestinians or their actions in the West Bank and Gaza. If anything, he was highly supportive of those.

Many of them will just go away.

Some of them might stick around long enough to say I shouldn't vote for either one of them.

But I've noticed none of them put as much energy into shouting down Trump supporters, which I find suspicious.

Just check what Trump has said about the conflict Cracker-hack.

if genocide is not a red line for you, you do not have a red line. you can be made to support anything

Even if both candidates "enable genocide" one is way more awful and also wants to hurt LGBTQA+ people. women, non-white people and refugees.

So fuck off.

I feel like this period in history will be extensively analyzed in psychology and ethics textbooks

I don't know what Trump said but I know that yesterday at the DNC the Dem Party released it mideast policy proposals and it's basically some psychotic zionist shit that entirely blames Hamas for sexual violence even as the knesset debates whether their soldiers are legally allowed to rape and does not even call for a ceasefire

"wants to hurt LGBTQA+ people"

yeah well that "+" includes pedophiles so a lot of people want to rightfully hurt that entire movement

Go away and stop trying to use these peoples' suffering to hurt even more.

how many Palestinian deaths are worth it to you, to get whatever you think you are getting or going to get? more than 200k apparently.

You do not give a shit about them and using them to stump for trump is beyond cynical and disingenuous. Go away.

>>"yeah well that "+" includes pedophiles"

No, it doesn't. What? Just repackaged satanic panic. C'mon man.

>>"You do not give a shit about them and using them to stump for trump is beyond cynical and disingenuous. Go away."

Blindly supporting the people actually funding, arming, and defending the genocide is not a good way to end the genocide.

I am genuinely amazed at the level of mental contortion necessary to believe this.

the only candidate I am stumping for is the only anti-genocide candidate that is on your ballot.

you will vote for people that will tell you that they are zionists, and that gave Netanyahu multiple uproarious standing ovations, and that have neglected multiple ongoing domestic crises in order to send to Israel massive quantities of weapons that cannot be used in a way that avoids civilian casualties.

stop being a coward and answer the question; under these circumstances how many dead Palestinians is too many for you? is there any red line? have the courage of your convictions.

No amount of putting convoluted words on my mouth is making you less disgusting or helping any Palestinian. Go away.

your words aren't the problem it's that you are taking action to assist in the murder of hundreds of thousands of innocent people, and you are able to see what you have wrought very easily if you want to, although I am sure you don't actually look at it

I cannot help Palestinians, but you certainly can help their murderers and you absolutely are, and you're jerking yourself off about how much better it makes you

What the fuck are you even talking about that maps onto a recognizeable reality? Go away.

read the Israel/Mideast policy document that your political party released at their convention this week and explain how it's moral to support that in context with the genocide

you psychos have lesser evil'd your way below even the Trumpers as you cheer the wholesale slaughter of children with weapons that you happily provide to the murderers

There you go making shit up again about what I have advocated or supported while you log into this backwoods site every day to fight for an outcome that is even fucking worse for Palestine and everyone. Go away.

Anti-establishment chodes who only care which choice gives the more "fuck you, dad" energy.

These are the idiots who recently said in all earnestness that Reagan was more progressive than Obama.

Obama said himself that his policy would make him a moderate Republican in the 1980s, dumbass