Hazelnut - 2021-09-26
Minus one star for Forbes, minus two more for the disingenuous “worse than the old boss” Trump trolling tag.
If you think the Biden Administration is responsible and needs to rectify this fuck-up, I completely agree and so does Joe Biden:
"I take responsibility," Mr Biden told reporters at the White House on Friday. "It was horrible to see, to see people treated like they did, with horses nearly running them over. People being strapped. It's outrageous."
In his first public remarks on the situation in Del Rio, Texas - where thousands of mostly Haitian migrants massed this week - Mr Biden added: "I promise you those people will pay. They will be investigated. There will be consequences."
https://tinyurl.com/mktjdkcm
If you want the Biden Admin to do more, I also agree. I don’t know about “defund the police” but we definitely need to defund the Border Patrol, dismantle the entire racist institution.
If you wish we still had Trump as President to cheer on the use of whips, then you’re a shitty person who doesn’t care at all about the suffering of those migrants.
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Hazelnut - 2021-09-26 I get where you're coming from Binro and believe you are sincere. (Pillager, the dude who spent all of 2019 and 2020 boasting that Trump would win by a landslide -- not so much.) Only time will tell who's right.
I would say the difference is, with Biden there is at least hope. The images on display here are provoking a big Democratic backlash, and we're already seeing that force changing language from the Biden administration just in the last few days. Let's pray that translates into action. With Trump there was zero chance of that - zero. Instead of investigating these shitheels he'd be offering them pardons.
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Crackersmack - 2021-09-26 lol this is every bit as delusional as anything that Trump chuds say about their guy
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John Holmes Motherfucker - 2021-09-26 Literally not true, Sugar, and you've got to know that. Nothing about how Biden is upholding the principles of Jesus Christ, how everything he says is the truthetc. etc.
The only way this statement could be any dumber would be if you began it with "LOL".
Stop using human suffering to dunk on Democrats, and to salve your butthurt after trolling us all last year about how Trump was going to win. If you can't be a decent human being, try to pretend.
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Crackersmack - 2021-09-27 lol you don't get to lecture anybody about being a decent human being when you're making excuses for this monstrosity that you helped build
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Gmork - 2021-09-26
still havent gotten an example of something trump did better at the border
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SolRo - 2021-09-26 Less people to deport if you force them to stay in squalid camps in Mexico
It’s not a problem if you don’t look at it!
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Crackersmack - 2021-09-27 don't pull a muscle contorting yourself like that!
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glasseye - 2021-09-26
We'll see if Biden actually does anything to fix this, aside from building his concentration camp in Guantanamo. The border should be dismantled entirely.
So far all we've seen from Biden is empty words, as usual.
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Nominal - 2021-09-26
If only the migrants had brought jars of piss to defend themselves.
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SolRo - 2021-09-26
You see trump was better because he forced the humanitarian crisis to be on the Mexican side of the border, so I didn’t have to see it.
Derp-de-durp
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Binro the Heretic - 2021-09-26 Whereas Biden is shipping them off to Haiti or planning to warehouse them at Guantanamo where US laws literally don't apply.
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Hazelnut - 2021-09-26 Source needed, because as of Thursday the administration denies planning to send any of them to Guantanamo: https://tinyurl.com/92ucy3dv
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Binro the Heretic - 2021-09-26 We've been shipping migrants seeking asylum who are apprehended on open waters to Gitmo for a while.
And Biden is looking for a contractor to run the immigration camp there.
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SolRo - 2021-09-26 So that source thing…
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Pillager - 2021-09-26 "DHS seeks contractor to run migrant detention facility at Gitmo, guards who speak Haitian Creole"
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/biden-admin-seeks -contractor-run-migrant-detention-facility-gitmo-guards-n1279886
Y'know. to speak to the Taliban...
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ashtar. - 2021-09-26 "better than donald trump" is literally the lowest bar one can set for a human being
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Hazelnut - 2021-09-27 Still waiting for source. A retraction also works: acknowledging actual facts doesn’t weaken your position; it strengthens it.
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Pillager - 2021-09-27 @ Hazelnut
Biden Administration Seeks A Contractor For A Migrant Facility At Guantanamo
https://www.npr.org/2021/09/23/1039950240/biden-contractor-mig rant-facility-guantanamo
At its peak, the refugee camp held more 12,000 Haitians under what immigrant rights advocates described as deplorable conditions.
"Sending people who are seeking protection to a place that is notorious for being treated as a rights-free zone is the last thing that the Biden administration should do," said Eleanor Acer, director of refugee protection at the nonprofit Human Rights First. "It is nothing more than a blatant attempt to evade oversight, due process, human rights protections and the refugee laws of the United States."
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Nominal - 2021-09-27 Oh, Binro
"You're still fat on the inside."
-Kthor Jensen
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Hazelnut - 2021-09-27 Still waiting for a source. Neither of Pillager's troll posts support Binro's contention.
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Pillager - 2021-09-27 https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/09/23/us-is-deporting -haitian-asylum-seekers-thats-longstanding-american-policy/
https://anthrosource.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/ traa.12174
No, we have a long running problem here.
I expect it to get a lot worse.
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Hazelnut - 2021-09-28 So no source. Got it.
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Pillager - 2021-09-28 On Tuesday, Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer pressed Biden and Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas to “immediately put a stop to these expulsions and to end this Title 42 policy at our southern border.”
“We cannot continue these hateful and xenophobic Trump policies that disregard our refugee laws,” Schumer added.
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/09/23/us-special-envoy-to-haiti-resi gns-over-migrant-expulsions.html
'worse than the old boss' is going to get one hell of a workout.
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John Holmes Motherfucker - 2021-09-26
Question: How bad can Biden be without being worse than Trump?
Answer: very bad indeed.
Seriously, this is a horrible thing, and anyone who wants to use it to re-re-re-relitigate the 2020 election can eat shit. All you're doing is making it impossible for Democrats to criticize Biden, which is not helpful.
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Hazelnut - 2021-09-27 Re-reading all the comments above (and pausing my handy Ashtarsmack filter), it’s striking how visible it is who actually gives a damn about the horror on display here and who only wants to score points.
We don’t agree on everything, Mr HM, but you’re one of the good ones.
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Crackersmack - 2021-09-27 You were explicitly told that this would be the result of a Biden administration and you didn't believe it, now that this has proven to be true you want to equivocate, make excuses, and lie to save face. Typical Democrat behavior.
You both knowingly voted for a racist man with a very long history of support for segregation, racist drug war policies, and abusive police. Nothing about what he is doing on the border was unpredictable. You did this, not those of us that abstained/voted 3rd party. This is something you contributed to.
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Hazelnut - 2021-09-27 Same lazy debunked copypasta as always. Back on goes the filter. Instructions for which are in the comments of https://tinyurl.com/h828jhpr if anyone else wants to benefit.
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Crackersmack - 2021-09-27 Yes if I was as smug as you about contributing to something every bit as destructive as Trump then I would hide from it too.
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John Holmes Motherfucker - 2021-09-27 >>>Yes if I was as smug as you about contributing to something every bit as destructive as Trump then I would hide from it too.
Fart.
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John Holmes Motherfucker - 2021-09-27 >>>better than donald trump" is literally the lowest bar one can set for a human being
It sure is, and just as soon as we can all shut the fuck up about Trump and 2020, that's when we can hold Biden to a higher standard, as we should.
Crackersmack seems to think I'm equivocating, so let me be clear. On this issue,, I will criticize and oppose Biden to whatever extent I can without supporting Trump or the Republicans. The reason why I can't do that in here because Crackersmack and a few others have chosen to revive their pointless, bad-faith, ego-driven, Man of LaMancha trolling crusade. We could address a dire present-day situation, but Crackersmack wants to go back to 2020 yet again, to dream the impossible dream.
If you want to talk about whether Biden is worse than Trump... fuck you, no he's not. You want me to explain why? Fuck you, google it.
Now maybe there's something ELSE we need to talk about?
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John Holmes Motherfucker - 2021-09-28 There's a reason why you deliberately make this about Biden being worse than Trump (which isn't relevant anyway) and not just about Biden being bad (which I could probably agree with) , and then pretending that not going along is "making excuses:. There's a reason for being so transparently disingenuous, and it's got nothing to do with giving a fuck about Haitian refugees.
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Crackersmack - 2021-09-28 Well it's pretty undeniable that Biden is worse than Trump if your primary concerned was the use of racist justification to deny asylum claims and deport people to an entirely collapsed state. All you have to do is look at the scoreboard. But I guess those people don't matter.
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teethsalad - 2021-09-27
"Yes if I was as smug as you about contributing to something every bit as destructive as Trump then I would hide from it too."
kinda tellin' on yourself there 'smack
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Crackersmack - 2021-09-27 Hey I voted for Howie Hawkins who (while imperfect) is a pretty decent guy that would not have used Stephan Miller's racist legal argument to deny asylum applications and immediately deport thousands of desperate refugees back to a collapsed state.
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Hazelnut - 2021-09-27 A troll is a troll is a troll. After a certain point there’s no point refuting their lazy copy-paste for the 1,000th time, best to just stop feeding them.
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Crackersmack - 2021-09-27 Hey I'm glad you stopped pretending to have me blocked, that was tedious.
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Hazelnut - 2021-09-28 Afraid not, I gotta look into that
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John Holmes Motherfucker - 2021-09-27
Among Presidential candidates, Howie Hawkins had the distinction of being the only one who knows who the fuck Howie Hawkins is.
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Crackersmack - 2021-09-28 John you're obsessed with celebrity to escape your own sad life.
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